Prabhupāda: Where did he get this idea, not to trust me? [indistinct] ¶
Govinda dāsī: So that’s what I was trying to ask. ¶
Prabhupāda: Huh? ¶
Govinda dāsī: That’s what I was trying to ask. ¶
Prabhupāda: Hmm? ¶
Govinda dāsī: That was the reason that I was trying to ask those questions. ¶
Prabhupāda: He has become impersonal. He is simply out of the jurisdiction of personal care. The guru is personal or Kṛṣṇa is impersonal? ¶
Govinda dāsī: He speaks of the guru principle and that his spiritual master is within his heart, and that…, and he doesn’t accept the personal service of the physical manifestation. ¶
Prabhupāda: He does not understand. Don’t [indistinct]. Who cares for his philosophy? ¶
Govinda dāsī: Not for very long. I am simply concerned for him. ¶
Prabhupāda: That is natural, but if he wants to avoid being saved, then how can you save him? ¶
Govinda dāsī: Yes. ¶
Prabhupāda: If he wants to commit suicide, then who can save him? He will do it, [indistinct]. ¶
Devotee: He’s downstairs in the morning. ¶
Prabhupāda: What he doing? ¶
Devotee: I don’t know. I stay up here during ārati in case you mean… ¶
Prabhupāda: Govinda? ¶
Govinda dāsī: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. [end] ¶